How Social Media Changed Oil & Gas Forever
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Unknown
Welcome to energy 101. Today we have one Clint and Peter. And we got. We're here for nape. Nape is going on right now, so we got the guys from out of town, and I said, let's bundle y'all all together and shoot the shit. So, I mean, there's a lot to talk about today. We're going to talk about hydrostatic.
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Unknown
What would you call for testing pressure testing, which is, come up in past episodes. Let's get into it. You know, Texas first, California versus Ohio versus Pennsylvania. Let's see, you can come up on top. It's really going to be all over the place here. But why don't we start with the Wagner boys, including Clinton himself?
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Unknown
You have this business that has to do with the pressure testing. And why don't we get a one on one all about it? Wagner talking test is hydrostatic pressure testing and pressure test analysis. I like to say because it sounds fancier, because we use a lot of fancy technology. Same as this podcast. And then, flange management which is talking bolts.
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Unknown
There's a lot to, to this. There's a lot to that. And then we just got into hydrographic. We've been in business for close to ten years and working hard at it. So having fun. You said a few things there that already sound like their own little tiny industries. Like from talk to the hydrostatic to pressure like it's a do.
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Unknown
Are they all kind of the same thing? Are you are they individual services you're providing? Definitely individual services. And there's people who like just specialize in hydrostatic pressure testing and then and what all that entails. And then that is like its own category. And there's a lot to that. And then there's a lot to flange management to talk and bolts.
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Unknown
I mean there's a lot to that as well. And just depends how far you go into it. But it's definitely a specialized service. And then now we're doing the hydro excavation, hydro back cleaning tanks. And that's a whole nother category and a whole other fun thing with, the safety involved with that and everything, you have to have for, cleaning tanks and, and, running super sucker and, it's.
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Unknown
Yeah, a lot of vocab. Are these services, like, done on every site or are they more of, like, a perk, like an upgrade? Like, are they mandatory? Basically, yes. They're all mandatory services that happen from drilling through production. So we were drilling rigs, frack production work over and then plugging. We're involved in and all of it.
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Unknown
So there's always something different. And it's a it's a different always a different thing. Yeah. So business is good. Sounds like we're we're working hard. We're working really hard. So what is the pressure testing look like? I I've learned a lot this podcast show that, you know, it's all a pressure's a huge thing. It's very high upside.
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Unknown
It's dangerous. Like, sounds that it's kind of obvious why it would be mandatory. What exactly are you doing in the field when it comes to the pressure test? Well, the blowout preventers need to be tested once you put, because everything's not together. And then we put it together, and then after we put it together, we have to make sure that it works.
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Unknown
And it comes from there's a couple, like, things in line that say, like it's sent to the field that works, but then we have to make sure it works once it's in the field, because I mean, they send the paperwork that says it's been UT or tested at the shop, but then we put it together. So we do the flange management, which is like put it in the other, the flanges, which is a lot of work.
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Unknown
I mean, you know, you gotta do a good job with that. And then once you get it together, then you have to test it. And then you want to make sure, first of all, it holds that pressure. But then you have to make sure every valve in line will hold that pressure. So like each BP has to, you know, be tested from the direction of the flow.
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Unknown
That could happen. And everything has to be tested to ensure the safety, because at the end of the day, what we're doing is taking care of the guys on location and we're making sure everybody's safe and it's a kind of a, something that sometimes gets overlooked or, or or, you know, played a different way. But at the end of the day, our job is to make sure that everything's safe for the men and their families and the company man and the and the customer.
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Unknown
So, everything, you know, I mean, it's a safety, basically. Safety. Yeah. Okay, so there's two of y'all from the same company. So y'all doing the same thing or they're different roles. So Quincy owner you know he's he's the boss I am I basically deal with operations and sales. I'm out visiting the customers, you know, trying to secure some new work and make sure the guys are taken care of and just trying to keep everybody happy, since it's kind of a mandatory like every, every rig's getting the service.
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Unknown
Like, what's the competition like? Or y'all go like seen as like a smaller company or y'all competing with like, did a major supply their own guys like, how does out I mean, a lot of the, a lot of the wellhead companies, the service companies, they they do what we do, but they don't specialize in it. So they might use their well heads or their bops, but they'll still call us out to come test it, make sure everything's okay.
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Unknown
We are a pretty small company. I mean, in the northeast, there's there's not that many companies that do it. I want to say there's probably 4 or 5 companies that are doing what we do. And so it's okay. Smaller, smaller. It's not like Texas where you, you know, you have a couple hundred rigs. We have I think 40 is the rig count in northeast right now.
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Unknown
So that's a lot of people going after the same work. All of the companies who do what we do, there's either they're either more focused on the drilling side and all those battles or the completions side, collisions, the production side. And what we do is like where we do both. So it's different. But on the drilling side, they really, truly need, pressure testing company because it's like a third party mandatory thing.
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Unknown
Sometimes every blue moon, there's a rig that'll test itself, but very, very rarely. But on the completion side, you run into, like the wellhead companies who can do the work and they can they can handle it, but they often need help. Or if you're on, if you have a reputation of really doing a good job, then people want you to come.
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Unknown
So they want your man out there working, and they want you guys to kind of like assist the wellhead company and like, rig it up, frack stacks and stuff like that. Well, on the production side, then you get into where you're when you're testing flow lines, you need a, you need a testing company. But they're kind of testing a little bit now with, wellhead pressure.
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Unknown
But, you know, there's there's a lot of opportunities. I like how you say, like, y'all are known for doing a good job. Like, I imagine the companies that do a bad job. I mean, a bad job, and y'all's service is like an explosion. Like no job. Yeah, go dying like that. That sounds pretty crazy. But, yeah.
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Unknown
That's good. That's good to hear. And then we have this guy. Yeah, we got, Peter here and, local, local energy podcaster and insurance guy. Yeah. So I've met, actually, I'll just kind of, share. So one was we've been on TikTok and I think maybe one of the first interactions I had on TikTok, we posted a video, we didn't start out to do a podcast about local energy or any, you know, and it just wasn't a thing.
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Unknown
We were actually making recording training videos for our insurance company, so that our, our brokers coming in could understand drilling risks and, and how that worked a little more in detail. Right. And we were like, show them code videos to start. And I'm like, well, I want to go ask somebody more detailed questions. So I was like, so I got, drilling engineer Wade spear.
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Unknown
He's out in Oklahoma. Great guy. He's just a fantastic human. But start asking questions. And I'm like, well, I'm going to post one of these on, on TikTok. So posted like a 32nd clip and, it was on, it was on frac plugs and we got so much hate for that video. I guess not hate, but just very strong opinions on both sides.
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Unknown
People that like frac plugs or don't, and then I end up, DMing with one and he's like, hey, I got someone for you that should come on. Your show is like a guest. And it was really cool. So you actually came on. I think, you're one of our very first, they came on like.
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Unknown
Yeah, one of the first ones that were on Spotify, I think. Yeah, it was right here. Yeah. So, so we've had a good relationship, and he's probably sent us just so many people to talk with and he's probably you're probably one of the most well connected people that I have ever met. Like, I don't I don't know what it is.
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Unknown
And I know Clint appreciates that too. But I'm like, I mean, the amount of people that you like are like, hey, this person's in this niche and this one, I'm just I'm blown away. So anyways, thank you on camera here, for this guy here, but but yeah. So, local energy podcast, we do that for about a year.
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Unknown
And that kind of came out of, I was, I helped Mike Umbro a couple that was like last year at this time actually, the only other, the first California guy I think of besides you. Yeah, there's, there's like only five of us. I think that that I and I've only met like three of them. Yeah.
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Unknown
We can get into that later. Yeah. At least in San Diego. I know there's more up in Ventura and Oxnard and stuff from Bakersfield, obviously, but, So, yeah, I was doing stuff with him, and I was like, okay, Mike, you have started a podcast. It's like, it wasn't really on his radar. And he he's really good.
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Unknown
He's great. I mean, he's been on, I think, on this show a couple of times. And, I mean, I saw him at the, the courthouse or whatever, the city hall, like, with his whole spiel. I mean, he is probably one of the most well-spoken people I've ever met. Like, if you get him in a room with people that need to understand something with California oil and gas, he's the guy, like, I wouldn't talk to anyone else.
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Unknown
So, but anyways, so I, I kind of was like, I'm going to go kind of figure this out and I figure out idea local energy. And then anyways, that's kind of history. But I've just enjoyed talking to people. You know, it's it's kind of it's what I do on a daily basis anyways with, with insurance, you know, and I'm, I just get to now kind of get more into the weeds on like different businesses and people and maybe potentially, hopefully find some recruiting, efforts.
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Unknown
And so at some point I'm going to try to find more people for these guys to, to work with. You know, they're going so fast they more people. You know, Peter loves oil and gas. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we all love it, but Peter's really excited about it. And I love I love the whole story of y'all meeting on TikTok.
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Unknown
Like, yeah, I mean, TikTok was blowing up during Covid and it was like, high schoolers dancing on phone app. And it's like, here we are wearing our hat. Uniforms are rising. Yeah, my nerves whatever. And it's like, and obviously like, I know from running our social media here at collide just how active the community is on TikTok, Instagram, even Facebook.
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Unknown
Yeah, I mean, what the hell is up with that? What are all these big Grizzly Man doing on TikTok talking shit in the comments about, like, half the words don't even understand. Like the vocabulary is coming out. They're going hard. You can post. I know how to get 100 comments on TikTok right now if I wanted to.
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Unknown
Oh yeah, where they come from, why they're there, I don't know. I, I thought the same thing because, you know, like Wade, he's not he's not really active on social media. Right. He's on there. He looks at stuff and we'll jump in on a comment every now and then. But like, you know, running it and and actually engaging with people and trying to like, understand because, the very first video we ever posted, this was Before the Frack.
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Unknown
When I almost quit, I was like, I'm not going to do any more of this TikTok thing, right? And we posted that one and it was like, oh, this is actually cool. But some guy was like pretty harsh on, like, just don't stop posting where you guys even waste your time. This is like the worst. And you know, what I did is instead of, I don't know, getting offended or whatever, like a lot of people would, you kind of lean into it, right?
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Unknown
You asking questions because you truly need to understand like the person that hopefully is another person. Maybe it's a bot some another, some of the country, but I when I do this profile, I like connect with them. And then I think it was like three months later he, he introduced me to somebody that came on the podcast. So you can kind of like I think it's really important when you go into like marketing, social media, conversations, anything.
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Unknown
My goal is always been to understand both sides of it because it doesn't matter if I'm talking to somebody that's like super, you know, pro, you know, green initiatives and things like that. They have they believe in what they're telling you, right? And the idea is to understand where they're coming from. You can have a different opinion.
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Unknown
But at the end of the day, especially the energy you need to have a very balanced view, you know, I mean, we need all the things in order for this to work out. And so that's really what local energy's been about is, is learning. I have a three year old daughter and a six year old son. And the other part of it is in California.
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Unknown
This is something that was kind of brought to my attention with, with Mike. Bro is there's very little education, for oil and gas and clothes and a fantastic job bridging that. But I'm looking at my kids and I'm like, okay, if nothing else, how can I get my kids to understand, you know, energy density and where does power come from?
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Unknown
And you can plug your, you know, your thing into the wall and it's going to charge up, but figure out how to do that. It's been fun. So my kids actually help me edit the podcast. Most of them, unless there's too much swearing. And then we got to figure that out. But but it happens every now and then.
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Unknown
Right? But but you know, my kids are involved. My son helps me the thumbnails. So we might have like the world's most perfect thumbnails out there on YouTube. But the reality is my son's doing it with me. And it's like part of that for me is is the fun part. So, yeah, it's been great meeting new people, though.
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Unknown
I think that's my favorite part of of life is like, even coming here, you know, he's like, hey, we're going to go to dinner. So we sit down rolls, you know, and then and then there's this like group of people that are like, walk by and we've only met each other online for the most part. But, I mean, to be able to meet everyone in person, there's like this growing group of people that's like digital first, right?
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Unknown
And then we're we're kind of gathering in these, these common places and, and really connecting on a deeper level almost immediately. I mean, we are we are in some pretty good conversations last night like, you know, I mean, within 30 minutes it was like we're talking about, you know, like your brand, right? I mean, like where your brand came from and we're building that stuff.
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Unknown
I it's great. I mean, but we had it, it was a good time and it was like meaningful, right? It wasn't, superficial conversation. I mean, I want you I really want you to tell a story about your, your brand because the to me, what's on your hat is just, it was really big deal to me. I'd love to hear it.
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Unknown
Then I think everyone else right here to. Let's hear it. The W came from, my my.
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Unknown
W came from my grandfather's and my dad's company. They had a rental company running the rent equipment, and, they, you know, renting rented heavy equipment, grew that and then, eventually got rid of it or sold it and, then I decided I was going to go into business. When they sold it, I was seven, but I was I was seven, but I was like, I'm going to go.
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Unknown
I got to do this too. And I always knew that I was going to go into business. And I figured out a way to go into business. And, I wanted to rep that logo. And then I think that's, been a big part in, in never giving up because I just that the logo means a lot. So we're going to make sure it stays around and make sure it has, good reputation and does good work.
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Unknown
And we're not we're the logo to me means a lot because it's representing or. Yeah, that's awesome. I haven't heard about like, you know, like because it's not the same business. Right. Or was it the same business. No. It completely different. Right. So like reusing the logo from the family. Obviously the same last name, right. Yes. So but then like a wholly different business, like it's like your family crest, you know, like it just kind of goes generations, right?
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Unknown
Yeah. That's literally what it is. Yeah. Yeah. It's awesome. Imagine Tim Cook's going to die and get the Apple logo and like his like son who has like an apple orchard. I feel like I feel like that's more of a Steve Jobs thing, but yeah. Right. Yeah. There's hats from like the 60s there. Maybe not that old, but yeah, definitely probably like early 70s.
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Unknown
There's hats and they have Joy Wagner in on them. And they, they're pretty cool. Yeah. It's the same thing with the same logo. It's different colors. Red. Right. Red. But yeah, same color I love that. Yeah. I don't know why I haven't ever seen something like that. That's such a simple and cool idea. Yeah, well it's yellow because of the pump up, but it was yellow and it's blue because I had a blue truck.
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Unknown
So there you go. That's how the blue and yellow came together. So it's a good mix. Yeah, it's a great mix. We've I have like, so my, my family's history is all race cars and automotive and stuff, and we have all these like old license plate frames that say Breck Motorsports on them. And, I probably have like 100 of them.
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Unknown
And it's the same thing. It's like you just never want to get rid of that, that heritage. Right? It's there's something special about it. So it goes back like, you know, 50 years and, you know, three generations is pretty cool. So it's when we started also, I was on I was living, a rental house that was about the same piece property.
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Unknown
So I would just wake up, turn the lights on, and I worked my garage. My office was my or my garage was my office, and I was working and there was a guy who would back in every morning at 4:00 am. And I think he woke me up every morning and said, it's time to go, you know what I mean?
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Unknown
But he was back in to go to work, and I was waking up out of the bed and and he had a loud car. So it woke me up. But it was a good thing, you know, I go out there and turn my heater on or my desk and try to stay warm and start calling people, or get in the truck and drive until somebody finally said yes or or answered my phone call or whatever it took.
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Unknown
You know, it just going to work. Yeah. Starting a company is not easy. It's not. I mean, it's one of the hardest things you'll ever do, I think, besides maybe raising a family. Right. And like, being part of that. But I don't know, I just admire the grit because, like, even talking about it yesterday, it's like, you know, get up at four in the morning to go to a freezing cold job site and then, you know, trying to have conversations with people.
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Unknown
And it's like, it's not the easiest thing to do. And then when you find that client, you've I just notice you guys take such I know you're so serious about it. You know what I mean? Like that relationship means a lot. And this is all, like, Intel from just talking last night. But I mean it truly, it truly shows that your company.
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Unknown
So I just want to, like, mention it's not like, just words like, you guys, I can tell you guys actually care about it. Yeah, I appreciate that. Oh, you're cooking dinner and there's pans flying and food flying everywhere. And all of a sudden phone rings quiet like, yeah, daddy's got a call. Like, we're going to we're going to talk on the phone now.
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Unknown
And, Yes, sir. How can I help you? I'm gonna if it's okay, I'm gonna ask you a question, but, like, you have family, right? And kids and all this, and you do as well. So, I mean, I think. Yeah. It's insane. Yeah, I know, I look young, I know you, so, like, we're all all here. You're like, we're all dads.
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Unknown
And, I don't know, I think like, a really integral piece of my life has been my spouse like my wife is, is massive in that equation. But bringing kids into it like, do you take do you guys, like, take your kids and talk to them about work and like what you guys do or involve them in any way?
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Unknown
Like, how's that been? Because like, for me, I try to they're still young, three and six. Like I'm doing a little bit of that. But I think there's something to be said about, like being dads and bringing our kids into what we're doing and evolving them as much as we can. Like, have you had that opportunity? My, wife is very big part.
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Unknown
I mean, she's the rock, like she says, strong and girls are strong, but, yeah, my kids for sure. My son, he's about to get a hammer and, you know, start swinging sledges. But as the eight month old. No. Okay. All right. I'm just making sure you're on the, He's, Yeah, I he's learning. You know, you learn things.
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Unknown
I think a lot of that stuff you learn from a very young age. Like you don't learn without even without even knowing. Like you just watch. And it's intuition. Yeah, yeah. You realize that, you know, you gotta go to work and got to do things and I don't know. Yeah, my kids are definitely involved in, like, my I take my daughter to the shop.
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Unknown
Sometimes it's fun for her to look around and draw on the board or anything. And I don't take my other son, the one who is in diapers yet, very much. I'm not very big on changing diapers, so I'm with you. But my boy or boy? My girl for sure. Yeah, that's kind of like literally swinging a hammer. Like, that's not a metaphor.
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Unknown
No, he's not swinging. Slash. But I mean, sometimes. Well, I'm really ready to get him out there, I think. I think 13, I think 13. We can throw him in there, put on a little mustache or switch it up in. Yeah. Good. Yeah, yeah. It's interesting how they, they start showing their hobbies, you know, super early. But you see what changes comes and goes and then you see like what's kind of consistent their whole lives.
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Unknown
Which for both my boys are just sports clearly. Yeah. Yeah. Sports is big. My son's like really into basketball. Right. And it's just that get him to practice on time and that that consistency and stuff. Because that's the hard part, right? Oh yeah I mean we we all have that. It doesn't matter if I want to work that day or not or something.
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Unknown
You know, it's like we still got to get the job done. Right. And I think that's sports is a great way to instill that. So for sure what sports do your son play? Basketball and baseball. And they're actually ten and 13. So they're a lot older. They're competitive. Baseball is a whole lot. And they play all the time a couple times a week.
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Unknown
You got to go to a game. We just started select. So we're into the big leagues because we were doing the the local little league here. And it's kind of kind of garbage. So he's playing down, so yeah, we, we had to pull the trigger early because at ten it seems like there are you know, the parents do that, that young.
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Unknown
But like, we're like, we can can keep going. But now we had, we had to upgrade. So. Yeah, what you're saying is true. We are half a quarter of our lives go into the diamond now. I mean, now we're in the same boat. My daughter's, one of my kids, eight years old. So we're playing softball when she was five, I think.
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Unknown
And she was supposed to play six years last year, and she was bored with it. We moved her up to eight U. And now she's doing all Star, and now she wants to do travel. Now it's a slippery slope once you get started, and if they're good at it then, you know, you gotta you got to pay to play.
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Unknown
Why are you so good? Damn talented kids. Yeah. It's a good problem. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was that was a great, segment to pull up. I had a feeling we're all dads here, so I wanted to get into that a little bit. That was fun. And we can bring it back. But I wanted to get into one, being involved with the, the story here.
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Unknown
I mean, I collide here. We use this picture of a guy in a hard hat. He's got some stickers, and he's holding up like, what's the monitor? It's a crystal gauge, a pressure gauge. Okay, so and there's the drilling rig in the back, and it's at night and the lights are going. It's like perfect. And it's shot like on an actual camera.
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Unknown
Right. So, it's on my iPhone. Oh, it is okay. I like I picked up some artifacts, I, I, I, I really couldn't tell. It's iPhones are just so good these days, but, it's a banger, and, we don't pay royalties for him. Are you? And we use that image like a motherfucker. You know, what I'm seeing today is, like, the perfect composition, and we just.
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Unknown
Yeah, we blast it everywhere. And that's from you, the photographer man. And you're a photographer in your art. Has to do with you getting the job, supposedly at Wagner. Is that true? It happened back during Covid, 2020. Everybody got laid off. Everybody was home and trying to do something, and, I started making artwork. Wood burning, you know, hot pen that burns into the wood, makes picture.
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Unknown
Looks pretty cool. But Clint reached out to me and I made wood burnings for his whole team. I think there were 7 or 8 people at the time, and that's rad. Oh, names. Wagner energy drilling rig, everything on on the, on the wood burning. How'd you get connected to LinkedIn? I think, before before any of that, I think Clint was probably one of the first person I ever connected with on LinkedIn.
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Unknown
Yeah, LinkedIn and TikTok, all these social medias bringing these guys together, it's crazy. All of them. I mean, that's the point. So. Right, right. Bonds the man. He's very active and he's very he's he's really good. Yeah. He he made those, awesome wood burnings for us for Christmas gifts for the guys. And, yeah, we we met then, and then we stayed in touch and then eventually, I saw an opening or an in.
00;24;16;09 - 00;24;33;03
Unknown
I tried to recruit him and got lucky. I think he tried a couple times. Yeah, there's. There are a couple times where he's like, hey, I want you to come work for me. I'm like, nah, I'm good. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm good right now. I'm home. I'm, I'm doing whatever I'm doing. And then he's like, well, how about you come do my social media for me, start doing this, start posting, start doing whatever I was like, oh, sure, I'll do that.
00;24;33;03 - 00;24;47;09
Unknown
And then it was, all right, now come work for me again. And I even started giving him people's like, hey, call this person, call this person. They're they're a good salesperson. They'll get you, you know, they'll do what you need to get off your off. And then and then finally he was like, no, I want you to come work for me.
00;24;47;09 - 00;25;06;24
Unknown
And then I think we had lunch at Buffalo Wild Wings or something. And, it was that was it. You know, we we had lunch, we had a couple beers and then. So. Yeah, he brought the paperwork with him, you know, he's very much. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, no. Yeah. The rest is history, man. That's crazy. Just like I said, TikTok and LinkedIn, like connecting everyone.
00;25;06;24 - 00;25;27;00
Unknown
Like, from now to, like, 2020. Like how how big of a of that is a part of y'all's lives. Like, like I said, it sounds silly. Like it's it's we're half the time you're watching memes on it and stuff, but like it is social media. At the end of the day, it is linking us together. It's what Facebook used to be when it was a praised platform.
00;25;27;02 - 00;25;48;22
Unknown
But like, y'all are all using it correctly. And like I said, the guys are on there and the comments getting getting spicy in the comments like it's it's wild. Like how it how important is this stuff to y'all and I don't know, like where do you see it going. How do you what do you prefer over the other I mean collide, have a collide is, the community side is our own social platform where we funnel these guys in specifically.
00;25;48;22 - 00;26;09;06
Unknown
But, like, what's your take on just kind of all of it. Yeah. I mean, it's it's honestly helped a lot. It's it's helped me make a lot of connections. Like I wouldn't have one without it. I wouldn't know Peter without it, I wouldn't be on cloud without it. You know, talking with Collin and and everybody else from, you know, digital Wildcatters days and just it's been a big blessing and just.
00;26;09;08 - 00;26;26;24
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. Like it's huge in oilfield. Everybody in the know. But it's funny. But everybody in the oilfield loves LinkedIn. I mean all the company men are on it. And some some times they're they have their number on there too. It's a cold call. And I was I know yeah. These these sites I mean you could join it.
00;26;26;24 - 00;26;40;19
Unknown
You could have joined LinkedIn like over a decade ago, back when it's like, give us your number. And you're like, yeah, fuck yeah. Who cares? Like you put it in and then like ten years later, it's still there. And it's like, that's why you get bot calls 20 times a day. It's true. What's your connection client?
00;26;40;22 - 00;26;57;07
Unknown
With the, with, social media, like you seem to be the more the most, like, locked in, like, just my perspective is that, like, you're in a rural area, you just. You're raising a family. I don't know. Do you have a TV in your house? Like you remind me of? Read. Good man. Come, gunman. He he likes to brag about that.
00;26;57;07 - 00;27;18;21
Unknown
I kind of picture that lifestyle. Yeah. We got a TV. It's not plugged in. No. Just one. Yeah, we got one. Yeah. Well, I connection with, LinkedIn. I don't know yet. I've been on LinkedIn for a while. I love it, it's. I like it because I don't really on our active on other social medias, but LinkedIn's work and, there's always something to learn on there.
00;27;18;24 - 00;27;35;12
Unknown
And, you can always hunt down people and hunt down work. And, one time I remember I was calling a guy and I got him on the phone and I was like, I got you now. I cold call him, like 100 times. And he picked up, I was pulling in Wendy's and he picked out and I was like, I got you now.
00;27;35;12 - 00;27;53;16
Unknown
And this was like for a big customer. And I was really excited that, you know, he accidentally picked up probably he's probably John had declined, but he had the answer on and and I just it was I got some work from it for sure. Story of my life and a Baconator. Yeah. And JBC junior junior bacon cheeseburger.
00;27;53;18 - 00;28;13;07
Unknown
There you go. They raise the prices. Everyone, man. Really? I mean, it's not a four for four anymore. Yeah. Damn, that's for sure. Those dark times. It's tough. It's tough. Speaking of fast food, Taco Bell stays open till 4 a.m. at our in our hometown. And a lot of times, like, the guys like to be at sharp at, like, four.
00;28;13;08 - 00;28;29;00
Unknown
So I'll go to talk a bell and get cheese. It'll be burritos and have breakfast. Burrito is what I call for the guys, but it's like dinner for everybody else. Taco Bell is like, have a good night. I'm like, yeah, have a good day. You know, it's morning time here. But yeah, we wake up and a lot of times the guys get teased.
00;28;29;00 - 00;29;01;14
Unknown
They'll be burritos and, for breakfast before they, where we all roll out to jobs. I, I love that because I worked at, Kirby Lane and Austin, some, Jacob Blower for the people who know what that is. And, I worked, like, graveyard shift sometimes. And it's funny seeing the line blur from late night bar goers to the morning people and see how people are, like, fucking hammered till like 4 a.m. then you have people waking up early to go work like a stalking job or something at 4 a.m. and it's like they're mixed together.
00;29;01;15 - 00;29;19;29
Unknown
It's so odd. And then like, sometimes you work like you'll work like just like a normal morning chef. It's like 6 or 7 a.m. on a weekday and someone they're ordering like, drinks, like booze, and you're like, oh, degenerates. And it's like they just worked like 20 hours at the hospital. Like, right? Like get off their back row, like, yeah, I love seeing that.
00;29;19;29 - 00;29;37;10
Unknown
So that's funny. We're in Pennsylvania. You're in Pennsylvania? No, I'm in Ohio. Oh, hi. That is true. It's funny because, like, so you don't know what time of day it is for anybody, especially in the oil field. Like, you don't know if it's if it's, time to eat dinner. It's time to have breakfast. It's it's always, always changing.
00;29;37;13 - 00;29;56;25
Unknown
Yeah. Don't be a timers. Don't be judging people by how they live their time. Totally. And usually the most important people are working the most messed up hours, you know, whether it's in energy or in hospitals or whatever. So, yeah, why you gotta watch it? And lastly, what about you and your you see, you're probably the most active social media user.
00;29;56;25 - 00;30;12;17
Unknown
I don't know what's exactly. Yeah, I would say it's one, but I mean we're I'm on there. So like the podcast is my sort of my my second thing that I like to watch, it's like a project, right? I used to write in newsletters and I loved growing newsletter lists and, and then, I was like, well, I'm gonna go do I'm gonna try a podcast instead.
00;30;12;18 - 00;30;34;26
Unknown
Right. And, it was weird because you go from writing, which is very much like you can write anywhere and people can't see you, and you don't have to edit as much like learning how to present yourself and ask questions and, so we did TikTok and then we were like, okay, we're going to go on Spotify, and then you start having all these different places and it's it becomes overwhelming actually, to be on all these places.
00;30;34;28 - 00;30;53;15
Unknown
You have to also do it full time. It starts to take over. So we've kind of slimmed down on where we're posting, like I'm on LinkedIn personally and X, but pretty much only on YouTube and Spotify now is kind of our focus right now. So even though YouTube got us started, it was like, okay, I need to focus and get better on on certain platforms.
00;30;53;15 - 00;31;06;22
Unknown
So it's overwhelming, you know? But again, meeting a lot of people and I'm the kind of person to where if I meet you on LinkedIn, I'm like, here's my phone number, call me, right. And and most people will and they like to chat and but I want to get to know somebody more than just the superficial level. Right.
00;31;06;22 - 00;31;26;10
Unknown
Which is okay, this is what they do. And I love actually understanding, like where people are coming from. And because everyone's got a different expertise in even, you know, even the oil and gas industry, I mean, you could both be drilling engineers but have completely different perspectives on what you're doing. Oh, for sure. And it's always fun to kind of learn that, that psychology.
00;31;26;17 - 00;31;44;04
Unknown
So yeah, there's, there's like a different mask for each platform. Like LinkedIn is probably the most straightforward. You literally have your jobs and stuff listed, but only recently has it like become like allows you to be a little bit unhinged. Like, I joined I joined over a year ago and I went straight into character mode, but I learned like, that's what Twitter's for.
00;31;44;06 - 00;32;01;28
Unknown
And the whole energy side on Twitter is like, I don't even know if we have time to get into that, but I do. I dabble in that like a lot of those guys, like, they go in there and like go on and on and like have a whole character persona like call. And I think calling it runs one secretly that we don't know about.
00;32;02;00 - 00;32;19;26
Unknown
And I mean, what's up with that? Oh, I love, I love x, I've met I, I love X like more than any platform. That's where I like to spend the most time. And and there's like little feuds on there. Like, if you look at some of these accounts that these guys have never met each other, but they're like telling each other, like, I want to know where your wells are.
00;32;19;26 - 00;32;35;11
Unknown
Like, if you're telling me that's doing this like, oh, well, I'm going to fight you like you're it's it's pretty intense. This was a couple weeks ago. And, and I mean, but I've met and I probably know like 4 or 5 anon accounts on there that, I've DM'd and then they're like, hey, like no NDA, but like, you can call me like, let's, let's talk.
00;32;35;12 - 00;32;46;26
Unknown
And you get to know these people and you're like, oh, okay. So I love I love those conversations because then I don't know, they're in my phone as like, I know their name, but I'm never it won't even be on my phone, you know what I mean? I'm not going to save it. So it's it's a good time.
00;32;46;26 - 00;33;07;22
Unknown
But yeah, there's a lot of, there's a lot of chaos on there, but also, I think it's the most cutting edge. Right? So, like, we can get in the whole AI thing, but, I mean, it's it's the first place that people are going to talk about Cloud Bot or whatever's going on that's new. Right. And so we've learned, like our insurance brokerage, like, we're, we're a very AI first company.
00;33;07;22 - 00;33;21;11
Unknown
And a lot of the stuff that we've implemented or started to do over the last couple years for our team has just come from, going on there and learning or even watching collide and what you guys are building, it's like, man, this is like, it's more than, it's more of a culture than it is like a tool.
00;33;21;11 - 00;33;35;12
Unknown
It's weird, but you have to kind of make that cultural shift with your company in order for anything to start to stick, because you can build the coolest tool in the world. But if you can't get your company to use it or culture to shift to that direction, it doesn't matter how productive you can make somebody if they don't want to to pick it up and do it.
00;33;35;15 - 00;34;00;05
Unknown
So it's been interesting and has been really instrumental in doing that. So I think that's my number one. LinkedIn, I've started post more on LinkedIn lately, but unfortunately it's more of the ex flavor and you kind of start to see that spreading around a bit more. People like, I'm going to start posting memes. I actually blame, Zach Copland for that because he posts the same thing on Twitter and he goes over on LinkedIn, and then he's got like four other accounts that are his accounts that now I'm no secret, you see that?
00;34;00;08 - 00;34;17;18
Unknown
And I call him out on it's fun, but, but not, all love Zach, but, yeah, I think it's it's Lincoln's kind of turning into a place where the corporate speak is maybe less necessary. So I can have some fun on there. I think it's a generation. You got to have fun. You know? Yeah, but I don't know about you, like, I.
00;34;17;18 - 00;34;35;18
Unknown
I will literally go from, like, I use all of it, right? It doesn't matter. And you could probably comment on something on LinkedIn and then two seconds later text me and then comment on TikTok. And it's like a whole different, like they're all three different conversations. They're not the same vein of anything like they're all different purposes, and you kind of have to just keep up with it.
00;34;35;18 - 00;34;50;12
Unknown
It's a lot of fun, so it's enjoyable and that's how you grow a business to ultimately, I think that's how you grow is just for finding people that you relate with and can, I don't know, have in your back pocket and be an asset to them too, you know. Yeah. All this needs to be studied and like, put in a documentary documentaries.
00;34;50;13 - 00;35;08;25
Unknown
I'm the way, the the way this like web works of all these guys. It's it's entertaining and I love I love where I've like come in. It's five years ago to now just seeing it all how it works. You've been doing this for a long time, like you've been in the social media marketing space for, I mean, ten years longer than that, a little less kind of.
00;35;08;27 - 00;35;24;01
Unknown
Yeah, it depends. But yeah, I know this is yeah, this is this is your interview, not mine. I'm just like, you know. No. No, please. Hey. You know, hey, you're the one who said you don't like to talk, and you're you're spitting right now. Oh, yeah. Sorry. You're talking in one line. You're talking like you're making clips. And I love that.
00;35;24;03 - 00;35;41;15
Unknown
I need that he's a pro. But yeah, we got time to for a few more things. I mean, some other interesting things that's come up about y'all is I mean, y'all aren't just online. You know, talking shit are talking energy. Realize I'm like, what over here is going to high schools and chat entities, kids building our future one by one.
00;35;41;16 - 00;36;07;05
Unknown
What's up with that. No, it's it's a something that I'm proud to start helping out with. Ohio Natural Energy Institute is a thing that I've been I've been talking with them a bit lately. Madeline Newell, who's your name? She goes to schools weekly. Daily. Just teaching the kids about how the industry is helping, you know, the economy and and helping their lifestyle on and everything.
00;36;07;05 - 00;36;27;02
Unknown
And then but not just that, but also how you can get into it. Like, you don't have to go to college and get a degree. You can go work in the oil and gas industry and make a good living. And and she's just preaching to the kids and spread the word. Yeah. You know, I'm just proud to be a part of that and have Wagner in the school and have our name out there and and just help the community.
00;36;27;04 - 00;36;46;13
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. Do y'all know about the K'Nex Mentorship Academy? I've seen it a few times. Yeah, I know they have. They'll they'll have equipment come to their office and, and Canonsburg and have kids come to it and learn about the different equipment. Yeah. The I'll do anything similar or want to do something like that because it just kind of sounds like you're going to the school and just and giving them a nice talk.
00;36;46;14 - 00;37;04;19
Unknown
Yeah. I mean, we're, we're bringing, you know, we're bringing tools. We're showing them stuff that like I brought a frac plug. Our we bring these kids are like drill bits and they're like, what is this? And then, you know, she, she has them has them make like, chapstick, like petroleum jelly and flavor and everything. She's like, this is oil and gas.
00;37;04;19 - 00;37;23;07
Unknown
Like, this is this is a byproduct of oil and gas. And they love it. You know, they're out there mixing, mixing it and picking flavors and mega make t shirts and their shoes and stuff. Oh, my God, I love that. That's amazing. Yeah. That's brilliant. I'm one of those kids I like, struggled in school and I knew, like, I knew the whole time I was like, I'm not doing I'm not going to call it like.
00;37;23;12 - 00;37;39;07
Unknown
Like I wasn't even into, like, cameras or media and stuff, like I always was an artist in some way. But like, every time, like someone would show up and do a presentation and like, did something like genuinely try to do, you know, was on like anti-drug day or, but like would just come in and do stuff like that.
00;37;39;07 - 00;37;59;07
Unknown
I didn't get a whole lot of that. But like, I, I remember stuff like that. And I specifically remember it was an entire class I did. I had a teacher, the architect class, and the guy was an active architect firm owner. Like, he was like a multi-millionaire working at the high school, teaching architect to like juniors and seniors.
00;37;59;09 - 00;38;16;08
Unknown
And he was like, hands down, easily like the best amazing teacher adult I've ever experienced in my life. Like, like, that shit is so cool. Like, I'm like, I'm sure there are guys out there who are coming from energy and doing the same thing, right? Like, and like going to the school like, hey, let's do a class like this.
00;38;16;08 - 00;38;39;03
Unknown
I know architect is like kind of more common in schools, but like, there's got to be places that are doing like petroleum 101. And I saw that many of them that I know I should be I know the Ohio Natural Energy Institute, it's kind of a collective thing. It's it was made by the state. All the operators in Ohio kind of have to put into it and give back to the it's their way of giving back to the community.
00;38;39;03 - 00;38;53;12
Unknown
Yeah, but it doesn't even have to be like K'Nex where it's like this outside of school. Like like it should be in a schools, like, I mean, they got rid of auto shops. So it's, you know what I mean? Like, a lot of schools don't have that anymore. Really? Yeah. Yeah, like I know. Well, at least in my state, California, I mean, I don't have that either.
00;38;53;12 - 00;39;09;00
Unknown
Yeah. I mean auto shop, they got rid of that years ago. So I mean, it's I just think that there's like, there's definitely a disconnect from like public education to what it is. And I think that kind of goes back to, you know, I hate to say it, but my role as dad, right, is to almost teach my kids to stuff, too.
00;39;09;00 - 00;39;24;07
Unknown
So I'm not going to, you know, I think it's a great thing not everyone has that. They're not fortunate in that, in that way. Right. Where they might have that ability. I'm certain, like teach my kid about art, like I'm I can change oil and change tires, but I'm not pulling a carburetor apart. My dad can do that.
00;39;24;07 - 00;40;04;17
Unknown
But that's not my that's not my world. But I think, like, I don't know, the interesting. See how you could build something in. I don't know if public schools be open to that. Be interesting. The oil and gas industry is for everybody. And it's something that I think is really cool, is like they're open to everybody. And like if there's no no, like from one somebody who's really into computers or somebody who's really into, other things or, you know, even people who've made mistakes, the oil gas industry is really open and and they're accepting that's like another big thing is you earn your, your stripes or whatever by, because everybody goes through those
00;40;04;17 - 00;40;23;14
Unknown
long hours when you don't know when you're going to get home, you don't know how long this job is going to last. You don't know if you're gonna make it home for dinner or not, like you might make it home for breakfast. But then it's kind of like a fraternity in that way where like, everybody's together because everyone's suffered through those long hours.
00;40;23;14 - 00;40;57;07
Unknown
And those are a nice thing about it. With, well, high school students like, bringing people in is, is you can bring in. I mean, it doesn't matter like anybody like it if you have purple, like, whatever. Like it doesn't. Everybody's accepting. It's like if you're just going to go through the through the, through the ringer, you're going to be accepted and you're going to be appreciated, and you're going to also like they're going to someone's going to pick you up and like put you under their wing and, and drag you along, you know what I mean?
00;40;57;07 - 00;41;23;24
Unknown
Or somebody said once, you know, or you can grab on my shirt tail, see if you can keep up. And it's it's very nice that way because there's, there's nothing anybody can can get a shot. And it's just you just got to put hours and time in. Totally. Well, I mean, one big thing in California, as difficult as the legislation has been, the part of it is like the oil and gas industry in California still employs so many people.
00;41;23;24 - 00;41;41;20
Unknown
Right. And a lot of them are, you know, it's it's the only job where you can go, come out of prison, you know, at ten years later and still get hired and still make over $100,000 a year and support a family. So if you think about, like it really is and I mean, that's that's I think the beauty of it is you can you can be anybody and, and work in the industry and you accept it.
00;41;41;20 - 00;42;00;16
Unknown
And exactly on top of all that, you're part of it. Like you're you're not just you're not it's not like okay, he's on his. No, you're all you're all together. Life goes on. We're all we're all in this together and and we're all supporting, supporting each other. Yeah. Very well. No, I can for a fact. There's been crews that I've worked on out in the field where, you know, you have, like, a college dropout like myself.
00;42;00;16 - 00;42;17;25
Unknown
You have somebody that, you know, has was in prison for ten years. You have somebody I was in high school. You have somebody that has a bachelor's degree in something that they don't use. And just everybody works together. Everybody's the same. And if you become best friends with somebody you never thought you were going to. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00;42;17;25 - 00;42;38;05
Unknown
Somebody you can call like a brother. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you can definitely. You make friends out there going through if you want to do long hours, it, it, it it brings bonding for sure. I still talk to like, guys who I've worked with ten years ago. I love that town. That's all me. I'll make the industry sound as amazing as it is.
00;42;38;05 - 00;42;58;00
Unknown
Like I love you all are so good at explaining it. But, like, bringing that up, like, so you're you're like the cozy office guy, right? Are you out there? No, I'm not. Well, my out there is like, get on a plane and and come do something like this. Right? I'm. I'm, I'm definitely not, like, putting boots on and, and get getting up and just to steel toes have just.
00;42;58;01 - 00;43;13;21
Unknown
Yeah. No. So how do you, how do you hang out with these guys? You know, like, how are y'all not butting heads? How y'all get along I don't know, I like it's that's their choice, not mine. Right. Like I like to get along with everybody. I, I kind of fell into this through insurance, which is weird, but it's my excuses.
00;43;13;21 - 00;43;27;00
Unknown
Is like, this is that's my avenue, my way that I'm able to hang out with. I think some of the coolest people in the world, like, I love this industry. There's not a single person that I've talked to in this industry that I've I've ever going back to that, like being accepted, but it's like such an incredible group of people.
00;43;27;00 - 00;43;44;20
Unknown
So, it's just my like, my day job is really just an excuse for me to like, go do what I'm doing right now. And that goes back to, like, the podcast and like, we're still actively like, I, my, my, my job as an insurance broker. Like, that's part of it. And another part of it is like, you know, just to give you an example.
00;43;44;20 - 00;44;03;13
Unknown
So we started this academy program with, Major League Rugby, last year. We've had 12 rugby athletes come through the program. Actually, we had one, one of those was an engineer that I met on collide. He's like, hey, I'm interested in insurance. Can I check it out? So he went through the program with us. He'll actually come on the podcast in a couple weeks.
00;44;03;16 - 00;44;19;08
Unknown
But, because we wanted to kind of start opening it up. And what we found is that a lot of companies are looking for talent, like, they need people that are going to show up and do the work. Rugby players are probably some of the hardest working people that I've ever met in my life. It's very much like oil and gas.
00;44;19;08 - 00;44;36;02
Unknown
You have this, this strong brotherhood. They can, you know, they go from one team to another, they'll go play tournament and they have literally 24 hours to figure out the chemistry of the team if they want to win. Right. And I mean, yeah, they can bond over a couple beers and like, but these guys work their asses off, you know.
00;44;36;05 - 00;44;51;27
Unknown
And same thing with the women's team. Like, we've had 2 to 2 women. I've gone through the program. Same thing. I mean, they're just incredibly smart people that work really hard. Because we it's 4 to 6 hours a week. But, I mean, it's fast, like, it's fast paced. If you want to learn a lot in 12 weeks and get paid to do it and be part of it.
00;44;51;29 - 00;45;08;12
Unknown
So, so anyways, most people come out of that and we've hired three from that 12. But there's, you know, obviously a large amount of that, that they're like, okay, insurance isn't for me. Like I'm not interested in. Okay. Well what are you interested in? Well, I want to go do construction, right. Or I want to go getting a financial financial advisor.
00;45;08;14 - 00;45;29;22
Unknown
So our next step, our next iteration of this, is connecting with companies that are looking for for those people and then trying to place them. So it's kind of like, you know, we're working hopefully with a company, that, that, that is a contractor. Right. So, hey, you want to go swing hammers and learn how to, you know, build houses like and I have people that will willingly say they want to go do that.
00;45;29;22 - 00;45;44;28
Unknown
I just have to build the network out. So think of part of this is like, how can we grow the academy? Because I really see rugby as an amazing avenue. You know, these guys are, you know, not not very well paid to play professional. They do it because it's passion. So, but we're gonna keep growing that.
00;45;44;28 - 00;46;02;00
Unknown
Right. And so my next iteration is, how can we get these guys in oil and gas? Right. And figure out how we can kind of plug them into what I think is, is one of the best industries in the world. So. Yeah. Yeah, everyone's doing cool shit. Yeah. It's fun. It's a lot of fun. And, like, talking to these guys inspires me, right?
00;46;02;00 - 00;46;14;14
Unknown
We're going to dinner last night. It's like we're going, I need to find people. And it's like, well, then I feel like I. We're building a platform like, that could work, you know? So I don't know. We'll keep exploring, right? Yeah. You just got to keep throwing paint at the wall. And then eventually you have a cool office like this one.
00;46;14;17 - 00;46;30;21
Unknown
All right, well, we can wrap it up. You know, I wanted to bring back something. I don't know if we said it in the beginning, but you know what's kind of worked all over, like, in the different basins. And like I say, we're all from everywhere. I mean, you can pair together. Ohio, Pennsylvania, basically. But, we got California, we got Texas.
00;46;30;21 - 00;46;46;14
Unknown
And, I mean, culturally, like, work wise, like, are you where you want to be? You think Ohio or, Pennsylvania is the place, or you want to get sweaty down in Texas? Oh, I'd love to move down to Texas, but, you know, being a family man and having a wife who was born and raised where we live and kids.
00;46;46;14 - 00;47;07;27
Unknown
And we'll be there for a while. Yeah, yeah, for a long time, Horn's worked everywhere. He's. Yeah. You should tell. You tell a podcast every place you work. I mean, every major basin in the US plus Canada. North slope, not the north Slope. That's one place I didn't go to. I almost did source energy. I was I was supposed to go to North Slope and then ended up, coming back down here and working for Clinton.
00;47;07;29 - 00;47;30;08
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. Appalachia Basin is really cool. I mean, it'd be fun to be down here for sure, but there's a lot of gas. I don't know, I think we're getting a good basin, but I don't know why, but we're supplying. I mean, we're so close to New York. There's a lot of a lot of gas, and there's a lot of lot to move.
00;47;30;11 - 00;47;51;02
Unknown
But there's so many rigs down here. I mean, you got like 250 more on it in Texas, where we only have a few. But things are moving back up north northeast PA and there's more work to be had for sure. But it's fun. Yeah. The whole Marcellus and Utica stuff's going strong. Yeah. They ever going to lift that moratorium in New York?
00;47;51;05 - 00;48;07;12
Unknown
I don't know. Is that is that some people talk about it is something people talk about. Everybody wants to go up there just because of how much gas there is on the ground. Yeah. That's a weird there's definitely more people moving up in northeast. Yeah. There's a lot more activity up there than there was. It's. Yeah very desolate up there.
00;48;07;13 - 00;48;31;00
Unknown
We've been up there up there snooping around knocking on doors and, and trying to, trying to get some more work. But. And what the hell are they doing in California? Nothing. Oh man. Like Sable offshore is like my favorite thing to, like track on Twitter right now. But I mean, I'm just I am really bullish on California. We just then it's just such a backward state.
00;48;31;03 - 00;48;53;16
Unknown
I'm not the right person to talk about it. I probably, you know, I feel like I've been around people that talk about a lot better, but, just from a we just need permits, you know, just, like, open, like, let's let's be let's be efficient. Let's let's get the. And the problem again comes back to education is we've so done such a great job brainwashing the California citizens to believe something that's not real, which is, you know, hey.
00;48;53;16 - 00;49;26;21
Unknown
Yeah, we're we're doing fine. Well, okay, we're we're importing, like, all of our oil. Right? So I'm not going back to all that is like, I don't know, just being better education on it. And I've, I've deliberately not talked about California on the podcast because I feel like it's a very polarizing state in general. What kind of I don't know, no one and no one energy really likes California as much, but but it's near and dear to me because I look at, you know, I don't know, you go to Bakersfield and you learn about the history of that town and you know, Kern and like all of that and it's, it's it's really
00;49;26;21 - 00;49;45;07
Unknown
is it's an amazing thing that that they did. And, you know, the gold rush, in my opinion, was it was, you know, the black gold's more important, right? I mean that's really what turned California into what it is today was the oil and gas, Huntington Beach, I mean, you know, you go my wife surfs there, right? And it's like, it's there's there's tar balls on the shore.
00;49;45;07 - 00;49;59;20
Unknown
And, I mean, I remember going for the I went there for the first time in college, and I was like, I couldn't figure out what was on my board. My feet. Right. It's like, well, it's it's tar, it's oil. And you're like, oh, that's okay. That's interesting. Right. So I don't know. There's there's a lot to it I love California, I will never leave California.
00;49;59;22 - 00;50;20;18
Unknown
I don't know unless the surf in Texas somehow becomes awesome. But, my wife, I just she's, she's a surfer. So we got to stay close to the shore. But but yeah, I know California. It'll it'll it'll get there. It's gotta change. Right. I was at, skipper last year, and the the sentiment in the room when you kind of feel like the conversations and actually, I,
00;50;20;21 - 00;50;35;23
Unknown
I think Colin's there. Colin was there. He had a, presentation. He did, but, it was pretty, like. It's pretty rough. Like, we hit the wall, right? Like, this is the end of, you know, California can't get any worse. Right? And and I think that was the point of, like, things are going to start turning around and changing.
00;50;35;23 - 00;50;55;26
Unknown
So there's I'm hopeful, we'll see what happens next couple months. You got to change the team name, the San Francisco Oilers. Yeah. We should. Yeah, that'd be the way to go. Something, you know, you got to do something. Yeah. My professors in college always would say that. It's up to us as as an industry to educate people.
00;50;55;28 - 00;51;25;28
Unknown
I mean, they've always said, yeah, guys would always say that just to educate the people around us about all the good that oil and gas does. Yeah. I mean, that's the irony. Like, California's got to be the leader in oil use in the country, right, with their population. That's a good question. I've tried to get a better answer on that, and I haven't been able to like, I guess definitively like, understand it myself enough to like, I mean, you can look at their energy mix and see that they're way more renewable, heavy and stuff.
00;51;25;28 - 00;51;41;28
Unknown
But when it comes to the things they build and the products and the manufacturing, they're like, there's no way it's not leading, you know what I mean? I just look at like our electricity costs, like I spend it's $0.35 a kilowatt hour, you know, compared to I think you're you can spend, you know, someplace are like $0.12, right.
00;51;41;28 - 00;51;56;23
Unknown
I know home is I'm just like, so I know like from that angle of it, like there's not even understanding of, like how grids work, right? I mean, there's there's so much more to it. And the problem with me is I like to talk to so many people, and I'm not very good at memorizing facts of like, here's, you know, shall we do it?
00;51;57;00 - 00;52;15;08
Unknown
Because I don't specialize in that particular thing. But, I just like to understand it, like in the moment. So I don't know, figuring all that out and like, I can only get better at, I guess maybe my, my pitch is on stuff, but. Yeah, California's. We need to do some work. I'd like, want to give a little shout out to Macias Industries.
00;52;15;11 - 00;52;38;14
Unknown
Yeah. He should. Yeah. I want insurance. That's another thing. It actually, I basically started with Klint, like I my art work that I started to do, and I started doing what, burnings. And then, you know, it turned into me kind of going more digital and doing graphic design and making logos for people and doing different things. But Clint Wagner energy, before I started working there was actually my first full time customer.
00;52;38;16 - 00;52;59;09
Unknown
You know, monthly, monthly customer where I was getting paid to run somebody's social media. Wagner Energy was a very first one. So shout out to Clint for, you know, getting it going. And I work for a few companies now doing some stuff and and I'm hoping to keep growing fam love it. But yeah wrapping things up. You know speaking of photos, we always have this photo here in the corner.
00;52;59;09 - 00;53;16;22
Unknown
I don't know what angle looks best. Yeah. Behind Clint fine. Clint there. Yeah. Give us a little swivel so we can get a good look at it. There we go. Yeah. All right. So, yeah, you can't see the whole thing. I'll posted it. I'll put it in post. But, yeah, it's a surfer hitting a a sleazy wave running with a rig in the back.
00;53;16;22 - 00;53;40;01
Unknown
Yeah. It's funny, you know, about this. Yeah. So there's that's the story behind that picture. So in 2015 so I got, I got, made around that time and my wife introduced me to all her cool surf friends, and, JJ Wessels took that photo, and that's, the surfers. Scotty, stop. Nick and I, I remember is he post on Instagram and I messaged JJ and I was like, how can I get a print of this?
00;53;40;06 - 00;53;55;22
Unknown
And he didn't reply to me because I don't think he knew who I was. So over the course of ten years, I got to know him, I had I, I kept that screenshot. So started this, this, this oil and gas adventure and I that I remember that picture and so anyways, I, I, I blew it up. He finally gave me a copy of it.
00;53;55;22 - 00;54;20;01
Unknown
We knew each other well enough. He's he's a super talented, photographer and like, works for all these different surf brands, but yeah, blew it up. And, that was actually I don't know. So it's very iconic. It's kind of weird how something will catch your eye and then like ten years later, you find the purpose, right. And, and I just want to give a shout out to JJ and Scotty for, just being so generous and donating that photo to me and, letting me share it with everybody that I can find.
00;54;20;07 - 00;54;34;17
Unknown
Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah. Cool to get, a little history lesson. Of what? Maybe you see all the time when you watch our podcast. Do you know anything about this guy who shot this photo? Oh, my gosh, he's on Collider, isn't he? He does this post on quite, quite often. Yeah. I do not know the I don't know the backstory.
00;54;34;20 - 00;54;50;09
Unknown
Yeah I forget the name, but he has a whole bunch of cool photos too. And he's gone to different sites, but the one where he went offshore with this dog and all the TVs is like the easiest one, where it's like, I need a hook. I need to get him on the show, or if you guys need to get him on, sure.
00;54;50;09 - 00;55;05;11
Unknown
Yeah. Sorry. I'm not remember the name, but again, post. I'll put it up here. He has a really good website and like, it's nice and organized and he'll send you the assets and you can pick and choose. That's cool. So yeah a lot of talented, really cool, interesting people in this industry, man. Yeah. It's thank you very much for having us.
00;55;05;11 - 00;55;07;05
Unknown
Yeah. Yes. Thanks for having us. Yeah.
